Thursday June 7

June 7th, 2007 Posted in June 2007

Spf33 suggests that the markings on the gear and Chad Rajinder would perhaps not decals, but markings recessed into the wing area, but remembers the case of Rendlesham.

"Identification markings, 10-15cm wide for a distance of 60cm from the personal notes Jim Penniston, and the testimony of a senior U.S. Air Force. Other symbols were observed in the case of Roswell (purplish color bar on the "I") in Kecksburg by Zamora in Soccoro, and so on. "

We discussed several months ago the definition of skeptical, as it has helped unite as many participants from different backgrounds on a forum such as Open Minds: "Whoever agrees to suspend its decision to consider something." It once again what distinguishes OM forum ATS, which is déboulonnage rather be considered as a sport, a militant activity of scientists in the former. They have said definitively that we are alone in the universe, or at least they have already concluded that there is no way to travel other than straight, and therefore condemns physics never travel to space from an extra-solar planet. Provided them a priori should not exclude visits probes or drones AND ...

Personally, in the case of Capitola, photos j'oscille between real and CGI. But it does me no problem asking whether a probe observation alienates. No more if the gear was pilote.

The new book by Jean Staun "Our lives have a meaning?" (Presses de la Renaissance) - after "Science and Quest for Meaning" in 2005 - calls the 'materialistic solved' the greatest caution ...

Add to recall this definition of déboulonneur proposed by Jeddyhi: "Someone who works to demonstrate that a case is fabricated and has already concluded in that direction. It will make every effort to prove he is right. "

Double_Nought_Spy lists three characters, "The Woman Lake Tahoe", "Chad", and "Rajinder." He noted that only manifested Rajinder - twice - on OM, and believes he could have played the other two. But it is reluctant to push further, and conclude that Rajinder would have a huge lie with aplomb. In addition, he would have had to be the author of all the other photos, or has manufactured all the images. However, this presentation is incorrect: besides the three mentioned, we also Shirley, who testified orally on Coast 2 Coast. So we actually 4 witnesses, including 2 are known. (I have not integrated the homme d'Alabama, whose sole picture is unclear).

Sometimes a 'scientist' from OM insists on a detail that seemed crucial, and as strays Astrodicted (he seeks to demonstrate that Chad began his story a lie): "I tried again tonight to understand how Chad was able to find Coast 2 Coast on the Internet. All words or phrases that I had are gone. This is crazy. I was a beginner a chance less than 3% of C2C discover. ". I tell him: "It's simple, I started in place of a newcomer who would testify on a somewhat specialized media, a kind of open line where my story would be treated properly ... I typed "Ufo radio, and C2C second spell." It's very anecdotal, but it shows that everyone is not interested in advanced cases.

Another example of advanced search, with this study OnTheFence regulatory markings on the top of the mast outside the house of Fine parents Rajinder: "In principle I am not in favor of a reckless pursuit of addresses of witnesses. But it was a challenge for me to reach out for information on the label yellow electric pole, it was an irresistible appeal. " "I can clearly read a" 10 "at the top of the label higher, but it does not go further. The one below indicates' High Voltage '. "

It has often been repeated evidence that the picture had more meaning. Hoaxes could multiply ... Some on OM, wondered if they were not currently help future forgers to improve. However, the scheme could apply opposite: a manipulator who inquired a bit, noting the enormous work done on OM by a group of researchers, would he still want to go?

Maybe ... In his fourth message on OM, Local brings new images: "Hi, I followed this discussion from the beginning, and I was very interested. Here is what has been published on the site of UFO Casebook "...

On the site of UFO Casebook, the accompanying commentary is as follows:

"Hi!
My name is Jenna, and I have a list of photographers in Saratoga, California. Today, a member named Stephen posted several pictures taken yesterday (5) while he exercised for a class assignment in an area of Big Basin [which is about 30 miles (50km ) Northwest of Capitola]. The images clearly show an object large enough in the sky, it could take two photos enough net and fuzzy just before the object disappeared. I immediately recognized some details because a friend forward me an article on About.com UFO quite different that have emerged recently.

I must clarify that it is a private list, which includes a small number of people. I pretty much met each participant, and Stephen in particular several times, so I'm justified in thinking that it is serious.

We discussed the topic for a while, and I suggested that we begin by sending you these images for your website because you seem to be familiar with the matter. Unfortunately I do not have the status of moderator on this list, and I can give you access. But I can send copies of the discussion as it progresses. Let me know if it interests you.

Stephen allowed me to contact you and send you photos, as well as its information, if you wish, you can write directly by email. We are not looking necessarily anonymous, and you can publish this comment with the images. I wonder what other photographers feel about this subject in particular, and understand what it is! The following is his account on the list that we sent earlier in the afternoon. "
Jenna L.
Wedding photographer / Freelance

Stephen 06/06/2007 14:42:31 PST
"Hi all
okay, where to start? - I was yesterday in the Big Basin Park for the class assignment that I've talked for two weeks - for those who have forgotten, the theme was to shoot something in tight plan, on an infinite, to make the contrast between the planes and play with depth of field, etc - I chose to photograph some plants / flowers that grew there, with reinforcements from the valley in the background - I always use the Rebel XT, I bought my dégriffé under the label SLR, so I concentrated on my development in the viewfinder when I noticed this thing off which seemed to have emerged from nowhere.

I observed with the naked eye, and I saw this huge thing now float in the air, turning very slowly on itself, with some jerks - as reflexively I took another photo This time centered on the subject, and I wanted to recover, but I almost lost balance because I was disturbed.

I could still take another photo, but is vague exit, and then it suddenly disappeared - the kind it is here or she is no longer '- I put the images attached to documents you can get an idea before I decided to do something - is it will make the evening news - I would return opinions before making a decision - I send you all, the first is where the object was found while I was photographing my flowers, but I wanted you to see the whole sequence - Sorry, I only have these 3 images, but this thing has not been more a few seconds.

I intend to return there for the weekend with my camera, and I urge those interested to come - I seriously intend to walk me all day in the corner to see if it resumes. If this occurs, I will do a million shots - I seriously believe that you must see this thing to believe, then those who want me have to be known - many more we will be better this will, because I do not need to tell you that I find myself in a very uncomfortable, and I wish others can testify with me.
stephen "

First findings OM: There would be no EXIF data. "It would be normal," says Spf33, "not with a SLR camera, but we negatives." It could also explain why, once again, we have no video available .. To Fore: "If the images were processed in a program or have been scanned, we should be able to find information on the application which converted the jpg image."

Surfer: "The witness looks sincere, but I do not know why, I felt at the Billy Meier with the first two pictures" ... .. At this stage, Spf33 would put "all researchers / investigators / webmasters in emergency situations, to get them to cooperate, share information, analysis, as never before."

We could not expect less Spf33, which immediately produced an animation to study the movement of the new object: "If the images have been named in the order they were taken, there is a problem with the 3rd (which is blurred), the object appears to be turning in the opposite direction "..

Two hours later, the sequence of images is from reconstructed the story of Stephen:

bigbasin3.jpg - 1st of the sequence
"I chose to photograph some plants / flowers that grew there, with reinforcements from the valley in the background"
bigbasin1.jpg - 2nd of the sequence
"Reflexively as I took another photo, this time centered on the subject"
bigbasin2.jpg - 3rd of the sequence
"I could still take another photo, but is vague exit .."

Hence this animation:

The Admin OM: "I just wrote Billy Booth (from UfoCaseBook), asking me to follow email 'Jenna - or invite him to contact me directly."

Fulminic was to study the camera of Stephen, a Digital Rebel XT (actually a EOS 350D): "The absence of markings in EXIF images does not mean much - when saving a picture with eg Photoshop or Paintshop, to publish on the web, the inclusion or otherwise of EXIF data is presented as an option. I have often let me move my pictures to lighten up. The real fans (including Stephen apparently part since he is a member of a Photoclub) on sites like pbase.com, post often without EXIF data to 'hide' their technique, so it could be a habit in Stephen . "

10,538 has volunteered to accompany Stephen next weekend in a trip to Big Basin Park: "His testimony sounds really fair. We will see maybe nothing, but I would like to meet him. "

As regards Rajinder, the Admin was more specific: "Nothing new since the day before yesterday - It was quite disgusted that his Flickr account has been sabotaged, and he expected an explanation of the site - it has work, he takes care of his family, etc ... But he said that we would obtain testimony from his in-laws, and he would consult the forum. He added that he felt a little "out" with all this. I drew his attention to the fact that the Capitola Police opened an investigation - which has a little comfort for night calls. "